black market baby

Skip Groff, indirectly, is responsible for this entire website—he's the one who put me in touch with Boyd Farrell and started this whole ball rolling. I interviewed him in July of '04 at the furniture store next to where Yesterday and Today Records was.

My focus was on getting the Limp Records story down and he had a few comments on the best Limp Record of all time (Black Market Baby, idjit. Who'd'ya think it was, Tommy Keene?).

The complete interview will appear in isssue 2 of Dementlieu.

Skip: I was not the first person to produce Black Market Baby. They did demos with Steve Carr and the famous aborted single session with Ted Niceley at Track Studios. It just was too cold and dry for them, that was my impression as to why they didn't release it. Everyone else seems to think it's fine. You've got the bootleg 45.

Well, Boyd really hates the song Crimes of Passion.

Skip:'s not structured very well, but as far as the recording goes, it's okay. When I went in with them and did the single they wanted me to basically produce them like a punk band, like I'd done with the Teen Idles and Minor Threat, and that's what I did. I took them into Don's and we recorded Potential Suicide and Youth Crimes, and I think we worked on one other song that didn't get released.

Did you approach them about doing the single?

Skip: No, they approached me. I'm pretty sure they approached me. I wouldn't have...I knew Ted, he was working at the store at that time, and I wouldn't have gone onto his territory like that without them wanting me to do it.

They had been unhappy with what they'd done previously, both with Steve Carr and Ted, and they wanted to try to see if I could get them to sound like they should sound as punks. They presented the songs to me, and that's what they wanted to do.

Potential Suicide I probably did in a little more of a power pop medium than they wanted, but it was chosen by Rhino Records as one of the great punk records of the eighties, so it couldn't have been too bad.

Youth Crimes, I think, is more of a punk song in keeping with what they were all about at that point in time. But there's no question that Potential Suicide's a classic record.

What did you think of the band post-Limp, '82, '83, '84 and on?

Skip: There was a period of time where, you know, I put out the Drunk and Disorderly single that Ian had done with them. And I think I told you that even as recently as 2002 Boyd and I were talking about putting out a couple of 45s of later material that they'd done. But I never had the money to do it.

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